Lilly Gold 8212 Reviews

GREAT for occasional/frequent travelers, but has some flaws...
by J. Moussa , 2010-06-21

I've owned the stroll-n-go for four years and have used it at least a dozen times flying around the country. It has made those trips much easier than they would have been if we'd been forced to bring both a stroller AND a car seat!

That being said, I'm surprised that the consistent problem of the seat-belt coming across the child's chest too high has not been addressed. My son is petite (at four he's 38" tall and only 31 lbs) and is just NOW tall enough that the belt is no longer a problem. I've wondered many times why the seat can't be made with space in the back through which to thread the seat belt (similar to regular car seats).

One pro that is important to mention is the fact that you can steer the stroller with one hand - unlike most umbrella strollers! Having the other hand/arm available to hold another child's hand through the airport, or your coffee, or your shoes as you run from security to your gate, is priceless!

Very Useful
by Garth King from Lafayette, La, 2010-03-05

My wife and I have a 5 month old, we bought this to avoid bringing a car seat and stroller on trips. We've only been on one trip so far but it worked fairly well. Don't expect all the bells and whistles of a standard stroller, but it gets the job done.

Pros: All in one, weighs the same as our regular car seat, handle extends a good length (i'm 6' 4"), is supposed to fit a range of ages.

Cons: Bulky (i'm not sure if this can fit a standard airline seat although the maker claims it can fit, we checked ours in at the gate), the mechanism to extend the wheels takes getting used to (it must be extended while holding child and seat off ground), our baby's head leans forward when she falls asleep in car seat rare facing mode (seat back is very vertical in this position unlike our regular car seat so we put a towel under the seat to prevent this)

I know the cons list is longer but it really works for what it is designed for, convenience. I wouldn't use this on a daily basis but for travel it's great.

Didn't work well for me
by J. Lawry from New York, USA, 2010-02-22

I so wanted this product to work. I consulted the reviews here very carefully, and talked to another owner, before buying. But the product ended up just not quite working as intended on a long-haul trip with my 14-month-old son.

First, let's be clear: this product has a very specific target market, as far as I can tell: flyers with young children. It is not a general purpose stroller: the wheels can't handle anything but the smoothest sidewalks, and forget about steps. Nor is it a good general-purpose carseat: I wouldn't use this in a car as a permanent installation. It is the sort of car-seat that you take traveling because you're going to be in and out of unfamiliar vehicles (such as taxis) and want something that can be used temporarily without full installation. This product is designed to get you to the airport, through check-in and onto the plane, and then off again at the other end, with your child in some comfort and you with the ability to carry your carry-on luggage with a minimum of fuss.

But here the problems start:

1) The seat doesn't fit in some airline seats. If you can raise the armrest between seats, no problem: I did this in a United economy-plus seat. I am a large man and I could comfortably sit next to the carseat even though it was encroaching an inch on my space, and I had good access to my son during the flight.

However if the armrests are fixed, there is nothing you can do. Air New Zealand Economy Plus has all fixed armrests and the Sit'n'Stroll was too wide: it had to go in the hold. Fortunately I was carrying a CARES harness ([...]) just in case for my son to use, but it was far less comfortable for him. Very few airline seats will be wide enough to take the seat without raising an armrest, except some first class seats: check [...] for exact seat widths before you fly. You need either 19 inches of width or liftable armrests.

2) The seat won't roll down the aisle in economy. Not even close. This means you have to fold up the wheels and retract the handle, pick it up with your child sitting in it, and carry it over the seatbacks to your seat. Try to picture doing this with your hand-luggage over your shoulder. Not easy. Dads travelling solo get sympathy from other travelers and airline staff, fortunately.

The mechanism for opening the wheels is not very smooth. It works ok once you are used to it. It is very difficult to open the wheels out while the child is sitting in the seat. You need somebody to hold the front of the seat off the ground as you operate it, it's very difficult on your own. The mechanism has a slightly plastic feel, although it's metal, and occasionally the mechanism doesn't lock in position if you don't pay a lot of attention, so you have to be very careful that the wheels aren't about to spontaneously retract themselves. Not quite up to the build quality of the more expensive strollers. One particular annoyance: there are rubber sleeves on the handles which aren't attached in any way and simply fall off. I lost one on the first flight. How hard would it be to glue them on in the factory?

Other people have commented that the extending bars to the handle are unnervingly flexible, and this is marketed as the steering mechanism: this strikes me as a marketer's effort to turn a bug into a feature. It isn't easy to steer the Sit'n'Stroll with one hand, and steering is possible by flexing the bars but you don't feel like you're in control of the stroller. If the surface you're travelling on is not smooth, it's much harder as the wheels are low-quality.

As a seat, it appears very comfortable: my son showed no restlessness in it and could sleep and sit comfortably. The angle of the back is less steep than many car seats, which probably makes it easier to sleep in. The forward-facing belt position across the child's chest is unusually high, and this is one reason I couldn't envisage this as a permanent car-seat. There is no way to run the belt behind the sitting position as in dedicated carseats, it goes across the child's chest. At 14 months but tall (85 cm+), my son really had to have the belt crossing over his upper arms, and he could still feed himself, but I can imagine this working poorly for some kids, either pinning their arms down or holding them uncomfortably high. Rear-facing is also possible although the strap guides are very difficult to use in a hurry compared to a Graco SafeSeat.

So, if you're a frequent flyer, and your child will have a business class or better seat with wide aisles leading there, then this seat may well be the answer to your prayers. If that's you, then the high price won't be an issue, either. If that isn't you, then this seat may solve some problems, but it will probably create others.

One thing I can say: you get admiring glances in the airport when you're pushing your kid along in one of these. Doesn't really make up for the problems however.

Wheel assembly & frame not sturdy enough for daily pedestrian use.
by Mark Tabla from St. George, UT USA, 2010-02-07

This stroller feature is be a great idea but not quite rugged enough for daily pedestrian use

As a legally-blind stay-at-home dad without a driver's license, I have found the stroller functionality of this product to be extremely useful in walking back and forth the quarter-mile over paved terrain from my apartment to our local WalMart with my 1-year-old son in tow. It also works fine for my wife as a car seat in our minivan.

But walking home with my Sit and Stroll this last time with groceries and my son was a disaster...

The front-left wheel assembly snapped right in two going over a sidewalk crack just as I was coming out of the store headed for home.

Balancing the stroller on two rear wheels with the front end in the air without dumping my groceries or damaging the frame while traversing sidewalks and crossing streets was a tedious ordeal although my son was in no real danger since we in a relatively quiet suburban area.

I thought I was out $250 but I found a wheel assembly replacement part on Lily Gold's website for $13.90 ($5.95 + $7.95 S&H).

Our Sit and Stroll is definitely worse for wear...
- the frame now leans to one side though it still retracts/extends OK
- the flap under the front of the seat has broken off
- a wheel needs replacement

Recommended only for light stroller use.

Should be better.
by Dachshund Mom from Frisco, TX, 2009-12-07

We purchased these for our year-old twin boys. I really really wanted this product to be great, and I was so excited to try it. I thought it would really be an answer to our problems traveling but unfortunately it wasn't. Everyone who's done it knows what a difficult thing it is to bring a car-seated baby on an airplane, in terms of getting it hefted up and over everyone's heads and down the aisle (while you're probably carrying a couple of diaper bag carry-ons as well). In our experience (and we fly American), they do not let us pre-board at all, even with two infants. This seems crazy to me, and it makes it very difficult for my husband and me, each with a car seat and baby in our arms, to get down the jetway and finally seated on the plane.

This stroller is easy to push around the airport - though the handle does seem really flimsy. But there is no storage, and you can't really hang your diaper bags on the handle - you'll need to keep those shouldered. If your adult-to-baby ratio is 1:1 like it is with us (my husband has one baby and I have the other), a rolling suitcase in addition to your sit-n-stroll doesn't really work either.

I was very hopeful that the sit-n-stroll would roll down the aisle of the plane. It won't, not in coach. Not even close. So somehow you have to pick this seat up, which is very unwieldy, very high (and I am very tall) to get over people's heads, with your shoulder bags on, and get to your seat. It's really a stressful experience and we typically wind up feeling somewhat injured - too much strain on our necks, our backs, and bruises on our arms. Getting the wheels to pop out and back isn't TOO difficult, but everything is made somewhat more difficult by the stress of all the travelers around you being unhappy about you bringing your baby aboard in the first place. Oh well. ;-)

Another problem is that this car seat is pretty heavy (compared to the Graco Safe Seat for Infants which is what we used before), even without a child in it. When you add a 20+ pound child, it's really too much for me. I'm 6'1" and my husband is 6'5" and we both did not like using the sit-n-stroll. Our experience was also that the seat is wider than the airplane seat itself, so the parent riding next to the seat will have less space to sit in than normal.

If you do use the car seat in the rear facing mode, the airplane's seatbelt fits at a comfortable level. If you use it in the forward facing manner, though, the plane's seatbelt goes somewhere else (higher up), and it really is in a weird spot. How awkward it is will depend on the height of your child.

For our next trip, we are going back to our former system - the Graco Safe Seat rear-facing (for infants) car seat (the boys are barely within the weight / height range for that seat still) with the Graco frame stroller (folded up and checked at the plane's door) to get it around the airport. That car seat has a handle, so it's easier to heft up over people's heads, and it does not weigh as much. And then we hope that we can graduate to the cares belt on future trips. That's another conversation :-)

Unfortunately, I cannot recommend this seat. It just has too many drawbacks, and it is VERY expensive.